The Nebulous Jesus

by Mike Ratliff

So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed in him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples,and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free (John 8:31-33 ESV)

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
neb·u·lous
–adjective
1. hazy, vague, indistinct, or confused: a nebulous recollection of the meeting; a nebulous distinction between pride and conceit.
2. cloudy or cloudlike.
3. of or resembling a nebula or nebulae; nebular.
[Origin: 1375–1425; late ME < L nebulōsus full of mist, foggy, cloudy. See nebula, -ous]

—Related forms
neb·u·lous·ly, adverb
neb·u·lous·ness, noun

cer·tain·ty
–noun, plural -ties.
1. the state of being certain.
2. something certain; an assured fact.
—Idiom
3. for or of a certainty, certainly; without a doubt: I suspect it, but I don’t know it for a certainty.
[Origin: 1250–1300; ME certeinte < AF, equiv. to certein certain + -te -ty2]

—Synonyms 1. certitude, assurance, confidence. See belief. 2. truth.

truth
–noun, plural truths
1. the true or actual state of a matter: He tried to find out the truth.
2. conformity with fact or reality; verity: the truth of a statement.
3. a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like: mathematical truths.
4. the state or character of being true.
5. actuality or actual existence.
6. an obvious or accepted fact; truism; platitude.
7. honesty; integrity; truthfulness.
8. (often initial capital letter) ideal or fundamental reality apart from and transcending perceived experience: the basic truths of life.
9. agreement with a standard or original.
10. accuracy, as of position or adjustment.
11. Archaic. fidelity or constancy.
—Idiom
12. in truth, in reality; in fact; actually: In truth, moral decay hastened the decline of the Roman Empire.
[Origin: bef. 900; ME treuthe, OE tréowth (c. ON tryggth faith). See true, -th1]

—Related forms
truthless, adjective
truth·less·ness, noun

—Synonyms 1. fact. 2. veracity. 7. sincerity, candor, frankness. 10. precision, exactness.
—Antonyms 1. falsehood. 2, 4, 7. falsity.

Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.

I have always loved Astronomy. Looking into the sky at night in Oklahoma back in the mid to late 1950’s we could clearly see the Milky Way and planets and the constellations. This was before light pollution washed out the night sky. I remember seeing pictures in the library books I checked out on astronomy back then. I had no problem understanding the differences between stars, planets, comets, asteroids, meteors and meteorites. However, at that time, it seemed that there was still a great deal of conjecture about the nature of nebulas. Their explanations left me confused.

When people like Galileo looked through their telescopes they could easily make out the rings of Saturn and even see its moons. However, when they looked at the constellations they often found points of light within and around them that would never tighten down into a precise visible form. Even as their telescopes became more powerful these “nebulas” seemed to be splotches of light with no definite shape. Therefore, they were called nebulas because that word seems to define their indefiniteness. In our time scientists have determined that some nebulas are other galaxies while others are gigantic clouds of gas.

We use the term “nebulous” to refer to things that are mercurial or indefinite. Genuine Christianity says that God’s Word is truth. Jesus says that He is the truth. Truth is definite. Truth is knowable. However, if you have the “opportunity” to debate Liberal Christians or Emergents or even Atheists, you will find that they will deny all of these things. They will claim that absolute truth is unknowable. In their “religion” if anyone claims to know the truth then they are branded as being full of pride while the humble are those who refuse to admit that anything is ever certain.

The Jesus of the Bible is knowable. He has revealed Himself to His sheep who hear His voice and follow Him. However, the man-made religions hold to another Jesus.

But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. (2Corinthians 11:2-4 ESV)

“The name “Jesus” can mean many things to many people. It is easy to bandy about the name of Jesus. But what does it mean? To some evangelicals Jesus is a slogan, a brand name, a logo. Jesus sells. Jesus is a name that can be tacked on to programs, ideas, philosophies, agendas. . . . Many use His name, but the Scriptures warn about these phenomena in the last days.” – (From “The Nebulous Jesus”)

As I researched this post, I did so from a focus of the astounding apostasy we are seeing today and how it appears that there is a “coming together” of various forms of man-made religion that is contending with Orthodox Christianity for the very name “Christian.” Brian McLaren has stated that his vision is not for Buddhists, Hindus and Muslims to become Christian, but that they become Buddhist followers of Jesus, Hindu followers of Jesus, and Muslim followers of Jesus. Of course this is not the Biblical Jesus but the Nebulous Jesus of the new world religion called Christian Dominionism.

“So what do you think is the end result that they’re after? Is it only “power” in the abstract sense?
“They state their goals in their private documents pretty explicitly. A world leadership led by Christ. Every single world leader and politician making every decision under Christ’s will. And you could quibble over semantics, but I would say that worldwide theocracy is their goal.” (From – “ Building a Kingdom for a Nebulous Jesus”)

“What is this Washington, D.C.-based “Fellowship” group that found common ground with the Dalai Lama? (See this week’s Herescope posts for details.) No one knows for sure because its past, present and future are hidden in the murky depths of secrecy. One fact readily discernible is its dominionist agenda to build some sort of “kingdom” on earth for their nebulous “Jesus.” “(From – “ The emergent nebulous Jesus & his kingdom

“Two evangelical leaders, Rick Warren and Brian McLaren, who recently signed the common faith agreement Loving God and Neighbor Together, which called for Christian and Islamic leaders to work together, showed up in Davos, Switzerland, this week at the World Economic Forum.

This is quite significant. Davos featured a “West-Islamic World Dialogue” with a “Council of 100 Leaders (C-100) Promoting dialogue and cooperation between the Western and Islamic worlds.” According to one report, the purpose of the C-100 is sustain “In-depth Dialogue and Discourse” and leverage “Global Cooperative Action” with a network designed to:

* Catalyse change and make progress in one of the most pressing global issues of our time
* Advance thought leadership to shape and guide the agenda of West–Islam dialogue
* Participate in the discourse among members of a network of influential leaders with eminent knowledge” (From – “Rick Warren & Brian McLaren at DAVOS”)

Rick Warren is quoted as saying at this conference, “If you’re a global leader, you have to realise that the future of the world is not secularism,” he said at a panel on faith and modernity moderated by Tony Blair. “There is going to be more religion, not less. You may not like it, but that’s the way it is.” This man is supposed to be a Christian pastor who is called to be faithful to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, but is actively participating in the Christian Dominionism whose Jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible, but is the Nebulous Jesus who stands for nothing definable. If you have not read those posts I linked to above I suggest that you do. As I read them in my research it was as if God directed me to each one, showing me what was behind all of the apostasy we are seeing now with the huge migration to Liberal Theology.

The Nebulous Jesus is all about world peace, feeding the hungry, redistributing the World’s wealth, stopping global warming, etc. What about the Gospel? This Jesus claims that the writers of the New Testament misquoted Him and misunderstood Him. He came to set up again the paradise that Adam and Eve lost. The Christian Dominions teach that their work will establish Jesus’ Kingdom and then He will return to claim it. This establishment requires world domination and their method is a one world religion where all countries are ruled by men who are subject to their theocracy.

Do you see it? Do you now understand how important it us that we tell the truth about the apostasy of these people? It may very well be that this age is closing quickly and what we are describing here may start to come together at any time, but we must still warn all who will hear. If this does happen then those who refuse to bow the knee to this “theocracy” will be persecuted. Who will that be? Won’t that be genuine Christians? Now is the time for all reading this to go to their prayer closets and get things right with God. Get your heart set on the things above not the things below. It’s time to put on Christ, the armor of God, so we can stand and not fall in the evil day.

Soli Deo Gloria

19 thoughts on “The Nebulous Jesus

  1. There is one faith. The Scriptures warn us about “another” Jesus. And we are not speaking of minor differences in focus such as Baptist or Wesleyan etc.. No, these are major reinventions of both the historical figure and the divine incarnation of the Son of God. Who would have thought that one day the atonement, about which all the sacrifices of the law foreshadowed, would be challenged as not the core of the Savior’s mission?

    But the Word has told us this day would come. Is it not amazing how specific God’s Word can be about…everything?

  2. I would like to comment on the Nebulous Jesus. Rick Warren offers Nebulous Jesus by his own admission. These are not mine but his, dear readers. His words are a witness to what is in his heart. Here are a few of his quotes. The Jesus that Rick Warren, the Emergent Church, and Ecumenicals offer is extremely uncertain, a pushover, and compromising. Turn away from these groups and the men who lead them! Here go Rick’s quotes.
    “We believe we can learn truth– I’ve learned a lot of truth from different religions. Because they all have a portion of the truth.” Rick Warren

    “I have known many people who believe in the Messiah of Jesus, regardless of what religion they are, because they believe in him. It’s about a relationship, not a religion. You’ve heard this many times.” Rick Warren

    “I would say I am more interested in having a relationship with God than religion. To me, I define religion as man’s attempt to get to God. And I have studied all the major religions… and they all just have a different way to get to God. Now, they are– anybody who has studied religions knows that they are mutually exclusive.” Rick Warren

    “I happen to know people who are followers of Christ in other religions.” Rick Warren

    As you can see, all of Rick Warren’s quotes reveal that he believes that salvation may be found some other way. If Rick Warren is correct, then Jesus died in vain. Perhaps Rick Warren believes that Jesus was getting bored with all of the other paths which Rick believes are sufficient. And then one day Jesus decided to cure his boredom by saying to the Father, ” Oh, I know….. How about if I go and suffer a bloody agonizing death on a cross… Yea, that’s it!”

    Nebulous Jesus– a Jesus who got bored, who just couldn’t quite make up his mind about what is or isn’t sin, and whether sin should be punished.

  3. Mike- informative, sobering post, thank you. The time is far spent to ask God to search our hearts; we must suit up and get serious, digging in our heels and get ready for the upcoming persecution. Paul tells us that the day of the Lord will not come until the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed. The falling away is here and becoming increasingly more evident with each passing day; the anti-Christ is about to be revealed. Let’s all remember to pray for each other and do as the Lord commanded Daniel in Daniel 10:19, “Oh man, greatly loved, fear not! Peace be with you; be strong, yes, be strong”.

  4. Laurie,

    Some bizarre facts about the son of perdition…

    He ruins own country, and murders his own people. Isaiah 14:20
    He refuses to release his prisoners. Isaiah 14:17
    He destroys many nations with nuclear weapons, and turns them into waste.
    Isaiah 14:16-17, Daniel 11:44
    He is used by the Lord to judge the earth, until God’s wrath is finished. Daniel 11:36, Isaiah 14:26, Isaiah 10:5, Isaiah 54:16
    He does not know that he is the antiChrist. Isaiah 10:7
    Gog (see Ezekiel 38 and 39 for the invasion), the king of the south, and an alliance of nations will oppose him, and Israel sometime before he betrays Israel. Daniel 11:40, Isaiah 54:15-16
    AntiChrist is given a tool of deception to succeed in his policies. A bow without arrows represents a tool of deception. Revelation 6:2
    AntiChrist cannot be Gog from Ezekiel 39, because Gog has arrows in 39:3.
    The Lord uses the antiChrist to judge Gog’s forces when they come from the north. Isaiah 54:16-17, Isaiah 39:3-6, Daniel 11:44
    AntiChrist breaks his treaty with Israel and attacks a divided Jerusalem along with many nations. The Lord destroys the antiChrist personally. Zechariah 14, Isaiah 17:13-14, Isaiah 14:3-15

    I personally believe that Christians will be here when the deceiver attempts to divide Jerusalem. A spoil is something which is gained by winning a war. Jerusalem was won as a spoil of war in 1967. Zechariah 12, 14, and Isaiah 9:3.

  5. Another good post. Reminds me of our memory verse for the week: Acts 4:12 – Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

    And the context (v. 10-11 KJV):
    Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
    This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

  6. Josh, thank you for your informative post, you may be right in believing we will be here when the anti-Christ comes to power. There is already talk of trying to divide Jerusalem; we need to stay faithful in the word and keep a close eye on the middle east.

  7. Laurie,

    I do that everyday. I have other Christian friends who serve as watchmen. We share news about the Middle East, news about current events in our nation’s politics, issues in regard to apostasy, and other interesting things. I feel terrible for those who believe that God is going to whisk us away from troubles. I can understand the belief in a pre-wrath rapture, but I just can’t believe in a pre-trib rapture. From what I have learned through experiences (sufferings) and through the scriptures, tribulation is what refines or molds the Christian. In the past, even the OT faithful had to go through and endure some difficult circumstances. They experienced bumps and bruises while the rest were being judged. Their lives were spared, but they didn’t get miracled away on a cloud away from any troubles. I am aware that the pre -trib rapture sounds great to the natural man, but it disregards the spiritual benefit of experiencing hardship. Hardship is unpleasant, but it offers a crown of glory in the end. Genuine sanctification requires that God’s children pass through the unpleasant fire.

    Josh

    Josh

  8. Hi Mike,

    I attended the Orthodox Presbyterian 5 pointer today. The congregation is approximately 25. The pastor is a-mill. They recite the Nicene Creed. Did you ever read that?

  9. I got to talk to the pastor for a few minutes. A Pagan Jew, turned Christian, turned Reformed. :) No greeters at the door. I went up to someone and introduced myself. Sat by another woman and we conversed for awhile. She told me they were having the Lords Supper today and there was information in the papers they hand out. Who should and should not participate. I felt a little uncomfortable and passed. Only one person besides the pastor actually introduced himself. (besides the woman I sat by) The sermon was truthful.

  10. Deb, I think you need to have a talk with the Pastor. Let him know about those things that bothered you. Also, a “fenced table” is not bad. I agree that not everyone should partake.

  11. I agree on that myself. I didn’t know what to do so I chose not to.
    This group has been there for 10 years. I even stayed in my chair after the service to see if anyone would welcome me besides the guy. If the Pastor didn’t come over and greet me I know I wouldn’t go back. Today their were 6 women including myself and about 9 men. Some people weren’t there because of illness like the pastors wife and children. They must not be used to visitors. I will give them a zero for friendliness.

  12. Mike,

    Which group believes that they have to “usher in” the Lord’s coming? Is that a dominion theology? I have heard of groups who believe that they are responsible for the return. Do Emergents believe that too?

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