Seeds of Compassion

My friend Derek Schroeder is going to witness and street preach on 4/13 & 4/15 at the Seeds of Compassion event in Seattle. Please pray for him that he’ll boldly preach the gospel as God wills.

Below are the names of those participating in “InterSpiritual Day” April 15, 2008 for “Youth & Spiritual Connection”:

His Holiness the Dalai Lama, a simple Buddhist monk
• Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Episcopal Archbishop of South Africa and Nobel Peace Prize Recipient
• Dr. Ingrid Mattson, President of the Islamic Society of North America
• Rabbi David Rosen, Chairman of the International Jewish Committee on Interreligious Consultations
• Roshi Joan Halifax, Zen Buddhist Master and abbess of Upaya Zen Center
• Rob Bell, emergent Christian leader, writer, and pastor of Mars Hill Bible Church in Grandville, Michigan
• Sister Joan Chittister, Benedictine Catholic nun, writer and teacher
• Pravrajika Vrajaprana, Hindu philosopher, writer, and teacher
• Doug Pagitt, evangelical author, pastor of Solomon’s Porch in Minneapolis, emergent Christian leader
• Episcopal Bishop Steven Charleston, President and Dean of Episcopal Divinity School and a Professor of Theology
• Linda Kavelin-Popov, co-founder of the Virtues Project
• Reverend Samuel Berry McKinney, civil rights leader and pastor emeritus of Mount Zion Baptist Church in Seattle
• Father William Treacy, Interfaith leader, founder of Camp Brotherhood
• Ahmed Tijani Ben Omar, Muslim scholar and spiritual leader
• Guru Singh, Sikh philosopher and spiritual leader
• Steven Shankman, the UNESCO Chair in Transcultural Studies, Interreligious Dialogue and Peace (
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21 thoughts on “Seeds of Compassion

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  2. I will pray for him. Are there any born again Christians in that list? I didn’t recognise any by their descriptions. Have they been left out by accident or design I wonder? Or perhaps they didn’t want to be part of it.

    You know I absolutely hate confrontation and disagreements, but I like many other true believers are starting to have no choice but to get involved in confrontation, just the mere fact that I am a Bible believing/practising born again Christian who believes Christ is the only way to God is causing me difficulties even in my mainsteam Anglican church…… I’m staritng to believe we really are nearing that prophesised ‘one world religion,’ where everyone agrees to disagree and no one claims theirs is the only way.

    I feel quite excited for your friend who is going to preach the gospel in the street. No doubt it will cause a stir, but those whom God is drawing will hear the truth and some may be saved by his boldness. i wish i could be there!

    In him



  3. As I have described this event, it will be the Woodstock of Biblical compromise. To see such as this in my lifetime both saddens and excites me because surely the coming of Christ is upon us.

    The deceptive enemy of God’s Word are good intentions. I would say that the glorious gospel of Christ will be sullied by the incredible mixture in this conference, however I do not believe the true gospel will be presented except by those outside.

    I Pet.4:7 – But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober and watch unto prayer.


  4. Julie,

    No there aren’t any ‘orthodox’ or ‘evangelical’ people on that list. It is all ‘New Age,’ emergent, and pagan people agreeing to say that there are many ways to God.

    This deception is ripe and taking hold within much of the church as well. That is why you are having those difficulties. The mainstream churches are in big trouble. Liberal theology has shipwrecked their missions.

    What are we to do? We must pray and obey.

    In Christ

    Mike Ratliff


  5. I will be praying Derek. I guess those on the list of participants that are claiming to be Chrisitans seem to be following the “god of pragmatism” rather than the God of the bible who says:

    “Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: ‘I will dwell in them and walk among them. I will be their God, and they shall be My people.’

    ‘Therefore ‘Come out from among them and be separate,’ says the Lord. ‘Do not touch what is unclean, and I will receive you. I will be a Father to you, and you shall be My sons and daughters,’ says the Lord Almighty.” 2 Corinthians 6:14-18

    God Bless


  6. We are to watch and pray. He really is in control and we know that. But I guess we can’t help but be anxious for His return to make things all new. He does say He is going to cut the days short or no flesh will survive, so lets hope it is in our lifetime and it’ll be sooner than later. I still say since the evil is all over the world and not in just some countries, along with the earth ‘groaning’, 2009 will be interesting. IF the man of sin is around, I can’t think of a better or riper time for him to show up. Lord knows the churches are taken over by him.


  7. Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

    Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Thank you for the offers to pray for me. I appreciate that. There are many aspects of the event are troubling to me. The joining up all of these false religions for a common goal is not unexpected because it was prophesized but in a sense unnerving to see it snowball in these days.

    One of the days of this conference is for kids. They are busing approximate 10,000 children from across the state to attend the 4/14 event. The WEA (WA state teacher’s union) is one of the major sponsors of this event. There are lesson plans for school teachers at all grade levels that are being provided on the seeds of compassion website. Teachers will be getting clock hours or CEU credits for attending. Can you imagine the public response would be if an Christian organization rented out the Seattle Center and had Paul Washer, John MacArthur, and other solid Biblical preachers speak to schools kids and teachers on a school field trip? And then also to have the state of Washington provide continuing education credits to the school teachers? There would be an uproar because darkness hates the light.

    The local NBC station is providing free commercial time for promoting the event.

    Take some time to navigate the seeds of compassion website. If you are familiar with Warren’s P.E.A.C.E. plan and Drucker’s 3-legged stool concept, you will see some similarities, except there is also a strong indoctrination aspect to it (i.e. psychology, school teachers and parents). In this conference you see business, government agencies, false religions, parents, educators and psychologist trying to reshape the next generation of kids.

    Watch and pray and be salt in your neck of the woods. This type of event or something similar to it is eventually coming to your area. It not matter of if it will happen but when.

    The grapes are getting riper every day.

    Your brother In Christ,


  8. Amen Derek! Thank you for sharing this and I pray that you will go forth in the boldness of the Lord to do His will. I pray that God will use this to open the eyes of His people and draw them from darkness to light.


  9. We’re praying for you, Derek! My sis, my friends and I have been researching Tibetan Buddhism for years. Here’s our info. Feel free to check it out, and to circulate if you desire. We should all be praying against the darkness. Here’s the info:

    Sand and Seeds in Seattle: Concern has been popping up on the Internet regarding Christian ministers who are joining the Seeds of Compassion event in Seattle on April 11-15, 2008.

    It’s obvious to many that this event is more than just a social community coming together to teach children about compassion. The list of speakers from a wide variety of spiritual backgrounds clearly classifies this as an event of a religious nature (

    Some may argue that it’s good for Christian ministers to be a part of an inter-spirituality event to be a witness for Jesus alongside the witnesses for Shiva and Buddha. Others would show where the Scripture forbids Christians supporting pagan religious event.
    Let’s lay that conversation aside, peel back the layers of the situation, and look further into the spiritual implications of this event. (It will be best to check the links as you go. Later you can Google for more clarification.)

    The logo for the Seeds of Compassion is the lotus surrounding a heart. The lotus has always been recognized as the religious symbol of Hinduism and Buddhism. It is widely used in association with ancient Egypt, the occult, and the New Age. With the lotus symbol central and the Dalai Lama billed as the key figure for the occasion, the event can be nothing less than the vehicle for an Eastern religion/pagan agenda.

    Sand Mandala
    On the days just prior to the event, a sand mandala ceremony will be performed in the nearby city of Everett (

    These ceremonies are taking place all over the U.S. (even in schools) and are usually billed as cultural events or peace ceremonies. In reality, the mandala is a kind of labyrinth and, therefore, represents the cosmos. The creation of the sand design is the creation of a mystical dwelling for a specific deity (that is, a demon – I Cor. 10:20). As monks meticulously design the beautiful sand, the deity is invited into the dwelling, and the monks are to embody the deity. When the sand mandala is completed, the design is destroyed. The sand is scooped up into a bottle, with some of it being sprinkled on the spectators. The rest of the sand is poured into a nearby waterway, and the bottle is buried at the site. The land has been dedicated to this deity.

    In the Everett ceremony, the chosen deity is Avalokiteshvara Buddha (, a deity of compassion, which relates well to the Seeds of Compassion event. Note that the above Web site calls this pagan entity a rescuer of humanity.

    It is my opinion that the Everett sand mandala ceremony, though not advertised as part of the Seeds event, is in fact the opening ceremony, setting the spiritual stage for what follows.

    From the above description of the sand mandalas, we’ve seen that the “seeds” of Tibetan Buddhism are already being sown all over our country, as various geographical areas are systematically being devoted to demons.

    Additionally, the Dalai Lama visited Bloomington, Indiana, a few years ago to begin the kalachakra initiation ( (Check the wikipedia “kalachakra” entry to see more, as well as a list of other cities where this has occurred.) The preliminary initiation can be a benign general blessing. But some people will make a commitment to the total package and move forward to become more devoted disciples of Tibetan Buddhism. As the initiate works his way through the stages, he is drawn in to what the initiation really is: voluntary spirit possession via black magic/sex magic (tantrism). These rituals involve the use of children in sex, other unspeakable perversions, and the alleged drinking of body fluids from human skull bowls.

    These are some of the “seeds” of Tibetan Buddhism that we have welcomed the Dalai Lama and Buddhist monks to sow in our midst.

    Don’t be fooled by the fact that Hindu and Buddhist speakers may reference Scripture and mention Jesus. False religions are quite willing to give a little space to Christianity—for now.

    When the Tibetan Buddhist definition of compassion is understood, it difficult to imagine how the Dalai Lama came to be associated with the Christian definition of compassion. For example, a Christian would not expect to become a buddha. But to become a buddha is to become “pure compassion.”

    Another example is seen in one form of Tibetan Buddhism, Chod (“cutting through”). In Chod ceremonies, music is played on a flute made from a human thighbone (preferably that of a murdered virgin– At some point demons are invited in to symbolically cut to pieces and devour the flesh of the practitioner. This service to the demons is the supreme act of compassion. Chod ceremonies are often described as “healing” ceremonies (another word whose definition has been skewed).

    These meanings of compassion have no similarity whatsoever to the Bible’s meaning of the word and suggest that the lessons in compassion for the children have a sinister backdrop.

    In Seattle
    So children are being brought under the sign of the lotus to be tutored in this spirituality—to receive the implanting of some kind of seeds that will blossom into some kind of compassion (maybe even the eventual “supreme act of compassion”). And how are these seeds of compassion to be sown in the children of the Seattle area?

    Having studied these matters for several years, I can make a couple of educated guesses:

    Mantra prayer. This comes in a variety of similar forms: Zen, transcendental meditation, contemplative prayer, hesychaste, and centering prayer. The words used as the mantra are irrelevant. When the pray-ers of any religion move into an altered state of consciousness, they all have the same experience: a sense of peace and of being one with the divine and with all mankind. Several on the speakers list practice mantra prayer. Benedictine nun Joan Chittister says, “To be contemplative we must become converted to the consciousness that makes us one with the universe, in tune with the cosmic voice of God.”

    Yoga. Some Christians insist that yoga isn’t Hindu. But the Hindus say it is. The word yoga means “union.” Perhaps you’re sensing a pattern here. A uniting of religions with a mix of practices that make everyone feel united and spiritual—all with no need for Jesus or the Word.

    So should Christian ministers stand with the Dalai Lama during the Seattle’s Seeds of Compassion divination event? (Isaiah 2:6)

    “Dearest Father, you alone are Almighty God. You alone have created all that is. You alone are the way, the truth, and the life. You alone are our salvation, our rescuer. Forgive us for being so easily seduced by detestable substitutes for you and your Word. They are nothing. Forgive us for leading our innocent children off your beautiful path and into harm’s way. Lord, help us. Please protect our children from the evil one.” (Lynn Lusby Pratt 03/31/08)


  10. Doug,

    Since you are a speaker at this “spiritual” (Buddhist, Hindu, New Age, etc.) event, what, specifically, will you be presenting?



  11. Doug,

    Will you be showing compassion to the Dalai Lama and letting him know how much God hates that he is leading millions away from Jesus Christ into Hell?

    And yes Doug, Hell is a place.


  12. Re: the Dalai Lama. This poor lost soul was taken from his home as a toddler and was immersed in black magic/sex magic Buddhism. He’s been schooled in doctrines of demons, so of course he’s brilliant and charismatic. He’s hailed as the epitome of wisdom, a god incarnate. The world is following him.

    But the Dalai Lama prostrates himself to Buddha many times every morning; he’s an idol worshipper. He denies the existence of a Creator God; he’s an atheist. He promotes devotion to the Buddhist Messiah, Maitreya, aka the “Planetary Christ;. He’s a false prophet.

    The Dalai Lama’s chief spiritual advisor is Nechung, a possessed monk who lives at a monastery called the Demon Fortress. The “wrathful deity” Dorje Drakden manifests through the monk for the purpose of advising the Dalai Lama on politics and prophecies.

    I’m not making this up. Check it out online or at your library. Please, beloveds–you educated but spiritually naive– do a little homework and for Jesus’ sake, consult the Word of God.


  13. With so many Christians being naive about the culture creep of Eastern mysticism/gnosticism/ occultism into the church, it’s refreshing to hear from many who are now getting it–and from the man planning to be in Seattle as a witness for Jesus during Seeds of Compassion.

    And yet . . . I don’t quite know how to say this . . . I urge you, please don’t mess it up. We know of one other similar event where Christians did some obnoxious protesting. It only accomplished a mention of them in the newspaper as religious fanatics, making the other side look even more attractive. It may be impossible to avoid the stereotype, but please be Gentle Jesus to a crowd who doesn’t know any better. Good news, not protest.

    fyi, Buddhist karma is a totally graceless belief system. All bad deeds from a thousand past lives bear upon the person ad infinitum until he can dig himself out. If he ever can. Tibetan buddhism promises nirvana in one lifetime via black magic service to demons.

    Thanks be to God who paid for our sins for all time, on one dark day. One day and it was done!! Amazing grace!

    Rich Blessings.


  14. Paul,

    Sorry to break in…but I didn’t see an answer to your question yet. Doug Pagitt does not believe that heaven and hell are actual places. He made this fairly clear in an October 22, 2007 interview with Todd Friel on “Way of the Master Radio”.



  15. Thanks for the break in, Jeff.

    If Pagitt does not believe that heaven and hell are actual places, then how does Pagitt define the Gospel, specifically, and how would he go about giving the Gospel presentation to the unsaved?

    If not the definite place of hell, what are Christians saved from (according to Pagitt)?

    And…What is the penalty for the unsaved’s lack of faith in Jesus Christ as Savior?

    The Apostle Paul states that Christians have passed from death to life when they have faith in Jesus Christ…according to Pagitt, what is “death” and what is “life”?

    So many questions!


  16. Derek,

    Please let us know how it went. I prayed for you. And saw some of the webcast. What struck me: the reverence, the near worship given to the Dalai Lama. Very unsettling, especially in the presence of thousands of children.

    DL got an atheistic plug in, suggesting that things like God and salvation are beyond scientific investigation, therefore may be viewed with skepticism.

    For one who calls himself “not a god” and “a simple monk,” DL nevertheless received the attention, applause, bows and adulation to “Your Holiness” with the greatest ease.

    In the later panel discussion–after DL left–several Christian leaders got to speak about Jesus, and did, calling him the Compassionate One; that as Christians they tried to model their lives after Him. Their testimonies of what their churches are doing to care for the poor and hurting were very touching. If nothing else good comes out of this, perhaps those folks who “love Jesus but hate the church” will take note.

    Doug Pagitt mentioned something like, “we are told to be Jesus-y.”

    There seemed to be a very small crowd in that last session. I guess the children were bussed out after DL left.

    Did anyone hear Rob Bell speak?


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